hey graham love your projects. a whole lot question the new waist line identity theory tho. “gobekli” try a beneficial turkish term as well as the turks just involved anatolia 1000 yrs back. the latest labels they provided was unrelated towards prior names during the most other dialects… along with, undecided one to gobekli is truly flipping all of our education ugly? in my opinion there are some most other settlements away from an equivalent time in the northern iraq/syria. this place was a provider area for a variety of rice. good possibility people stumbled on ferment it for alcohol mash connected to help you rites. perhaps fixes a romantic date to own icon carvings and you may religious type habits – that’s currently speculated to own ‘shamanism’ regarding paleolitihic particularly 30k yrs in the past – however, all of the very upfront around, extremely, i think… andy xx

Karahan is an additional interesting identity, probably based on Sumerian KAR/KARA, a variety of words including identifiable since supply of French Carnac, offered due to the fact ‘harbour’ and you can translatable because the a great ‘signing up for together’, – on added NA – off stones

Hi Andy You may want to look at the former (Armenian) title out-of Gobekli Tepe before it was given their label into the Turkish. I have flew widely during the Armenia and certainly will reveal this is a hot problem with the brand new Armenians. A sign here: Thank you, Graham

many thanks for brand new react, graham! the fresh armenian allege is obviously far more fascinating as compared to turkish term! and you may e is an interpretation. you understand which?

Andy, You use the expression ‘just’ that we didn’t, for a good reason

Never ever forgetting that these internet sites is actually none Turkish neither Armenian within the sources, but Mesopotamian and you can beyond. One another labels, Gobek and you may Portasar are relevant where he’s detailed from the place on vocabulary therefore the lifetime of the individuals civilisations but fundamentally the name would be Sumero-Akkadian which was the language of one’s area long before they arrived. You will find already generated the situation one to Gobek is due to around through GU?-BI (found in the Facts out of Sukurru/The latest Guidelines out-of Shuruppak), as most most likely in addition to do Portasar as a consequence of BUR, the brand new ‘bowl’ otherwise, significantly more surprisingly, as a result of DUR (which is closely linked to GU?). The new English waist line is sourced during the NA which is ‘stone’. Out-of KAR-AN-NA (perhaps having AK). Egyptian Karnak seems to result from KUR-NA, this new stone mountains, a combo located numerous times within my lingering re-translation of Enki’s Journey to Nibru. Virtually no circumstances can be produced to own appropriation of them cities by the any class from the progressive items of the names. Madeleine

Turkish ‘gobek’, Armenian ‘portasar’, English ‘navel’ otherwise ‘umbilical’ all head straight back by way of one route or any other on the exact same framework – of which all those words derived. ‘Just’ suggests one thing shallow which could function as opposite of one’s details in such a case. Actually, men and women terms and conditions come from the initial notion of the latest heavenly womb, the newest Milky Method, the best maternal wire compliment of which birth and you may revival are present. I came across GU?-BI with her within the a 280-line text out-of Mesopotamia old so you can ca.2600 BC. The word KILI, which includes individuals significance from which ‘so you can encircle’ and you can ‘block’, follows a couple lines then with each other. Possibly a happenstance however, In my opinion maybe not. New UM regarding umbilical provides the provided definition ‘rope’ if you find yourself UM-MA is the ancestral Mother. The latest NA from navel provides the considering meaning ‘stone’ and i highly recommend it’s supply of the fresh new omphalos (UM) brick listed above by the Graham. Hidden or not, experience in instance sites is part of a seriously inserted heritage you to definitely went on through to the considerably later on site of one’s Mesopotamians – in the a language also known as Sumerian. Their tale is just now start to lso are-appear.